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The Sixth Sense (ESP)

12/1/2014

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Since Mediums claim to have a sixth sense and profess that they can materialize dead people and talk to them I have the following questions and I hope that someone can answer these.

! - All non-handicapped people are born with the 5 senses in an operational condition. There are people who are born blind, deaf or otherwise handicapped but they are a small minority. It is the other way around with the 6th sense. Only a few people have ESP and can use this as a means to become Mediums. Why is that?

2 - Do handicapped people get the full five senses in the afterlife?

3 – Is your age in the afterlife fixed at the age you die? Do babies grow up to become adults? Do very old frail people become younger?

4 - Do clothes dematerialize so you can use them in the afterlife or are the materialized dead persons naked?

5 -  It seems that materializations always happen in a darkened room. Is there no sun in the afterlife?

6 – Can materializations happen outdoors and if so could a casual passerby, who is not part of the séance see them?

7 -  If an ancient person such as Abraham materializes, how is he clothed and what language does he speak?

8 – Can a caveman be materialized and how would he/she react to the modern humans trying to talk to him/her?

9 – Can one get up and touch the ectoplasm, if it appears, which is a manifestation of spiritual energy?

10 – How can we distinguish between real materialization and hallucination, hypnotic trance, or collective obsessional behavior as a sociopsychological phenomenon?

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Neilos
12/7/2014 03:03:22 am

1, consider that we are all spiritual beings so therefore possess the ability to become mediums if we apply ourselves and set the right intent.
2, People with physical or learning disabilities once they become disincarnate will leave their physical or mental ailments with the physical body they have just departed.
3, Our spiritual self is eternal so age is is meaningless once we leave the physical.
4, Why would we need clothes? Spirit will materialise dressed not to shock I imagine.
5, Not always there are many documented examples of spirit materialising in daylight. It is usually developing physical mediums who work in blackout conditions as ectoplasm is light sensitive and it takes years of development to get to a safe materialisation in light.
6, The whole point of physical mediumship is that all observers see, hear and feel the same things.
7, Interesting question I have sat with a developing physical medium and was fortunate to be present on several occasions when a well known German psychic from the 1930's spoke to us in German. The medium does not speak this language. A spirit would want to replicate as near as possible their voice, mannerisms and attire so that they can be recognised as the person they were.
8, Interesting question :). You are thinking in terms of a caveman being incarnate but need to consider this from a disincarnate perspective.
9, I have been allowed to touch ectoplasm and also been fortunate enough to have ectoplasm touch me. Only by permission from spirit can you touch the substance.
10, Because we can interact with a materialised spirit in a physical way. There are accounts of doctors checking the pulse on a materialised figure.

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Neilos
12/8/2014 02:02:38 am

1, No, we are all spirit inhabiting a body so we can all channel spirit to a certain degree in different ways.
2, People with physical or mental disabilities leave their ailments behind once they leave the physical body.
3, Age is irrelevant to a spirit who is timeless and has had many incarnations.
4, spirit will usually materialise in a way that is recognisable to the people observing. It would also be immodest to materialise naked.
5, There are many written accounts of spirit materialising in daylight. Ectoplasm is light sensitive and it takes many years of gradual exposure to get materialisation in light and it is also very rare to get a physical medium who can do this.
6, The whole point of physical mediumship is that everyone observing will see and hear the same things.
7, Interesting question. I have sat in several seances with a female direct voice medium who channels a famous German psychic who was alive (in the physical sense) in the 1930's. He speaks German in a very deep masculine voice when he comes through. So to answer your question spirit will try to replicate as close as possible in character, voice, looks and clothing to the person they were when here.
8, A caveman would also be spirit so your question is redundant.
9, I have touched and been touched by ectoplasm my permission of spirit. I have observed the substance in many forms from being gas like to being quite dense.
10, Very easy everyone experiences the same thing and there is physical interaction between the observer and spirit. I have spoken to several spirits via direct voice.

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Ben Andrews. link
12/8/2014 08:54:43 am

!. A nice statement but is it a fact? Read the page on "origin of the spirit", indicating that "spirit' is a man made concept. just like "god". Just stating it, does not "prove" it.
2. Again , just stating it doesn't make it so.
3.Same
4.Why "modesty". That is just a cultural habit, The caveman did not have modesty. Why modesty in the afterlife?
5.Many written accounts? anecdotal testimony? fictional accounts?
6. Good point, but only reported by people taking part so mass hallucinations or hypnotism cannot be ruled out.
7. I am sure the medium will try to imitate an accent as much as he can, but the listener might not even know the accent. It "sounds" like one. "Try to replicate"? yes. of course! Authentic? doubtful.
8.So you have talked to a "materialized' caveman and he understood what you say?
9. Ectoplasm resembles fog quite often. Have you read the rest of the website or just answered the questions on the blog page?
10. I believe you had that experience but they can be explained by Hypnosis, hallucinations, dream states, mass hysteria and many other explanations thoroughly researched in psychology.

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Neilos
12/8/2014 08:43:56 pm

Hi Ben, thanks for your reply and your clear bias is showing;). The reasons why I know the difference is experience of working with spirit for many years. I have sat with amazing mediums who have channelled different and distinct personalities of either gender. Personalities from different countries and cultures who speak different languages. It is impossible to record or photograph hallucinations and I have done both.

Your theories hold no weight whatsoever and you will not find the answers in academic literature or online. The best evidence you will find is to start your own group and experiment with means of communicating with spirit. Set the right intent with an open mind and you will be surprised what you find.

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Ben Andrews link
12/9/2014 10:45:35 am

Lack of proof is not "bias". You have records and Photos of "spirits"? Let us see them with positive proof that they are not fake, with experts examining the "evidence". Recordings can be anybody's voice. Flying saucer photos are plenty as well. If you had convincing material you would be famous right now. Bring the material authenticated by the majority of qualified scientists. There are many phenomena which are established by scientific experiments but spiritualism is not one of them. Bring on the material and I'll be the first one to convert!

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Neilos
12/9/2014 02:00:35 pm

I am really not interested in fame or really care what science or anyone else thinks. As you say in today's techno world photos are easily shopped. It's not my journey to change your mind and know that is impossible. I am stating you are wrong and if you undertake personal research you will find out yourself. Your theories are empty.

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Ben Andrews link
1/10/2015 03:30:19 am

Surprise, surprise, always, when I come to the point in the discussion with believers like you, and ask for proof , I get the same cop-out answer. You state you have proof but are not interested to show it. If you are not, a declaration of "you are wrong" is meaningless, and so are your arguments.

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Susan Burns
1/9/2015 04:45:40 am

"5 - It seems that materializations always happen in a darkened room. Is there no sun in the afterlife?"

That made me laugh out loud.

I was born and raised in the rural South and the culture there is both very religious (Evangelical Protestantism) AND very superstitious (ghosts and the like). For instance, my grandmother didn't believe dinosaurs really existed because they're not in the Bible BUT she believed that if it rained on your funeral it meant God was crying because you had gone to Hell (which is nowhere in the Bible and not something that is ever preached from the pulpit). These were people who would wave off someone else's story of seeing a ghost or what-not as a silly tall tale, but then turn around and tell their OWN story of seeing something supernatural and be DEAD SERIOUS.

So, much like with organized religion, if you grow up being repeatedly told something happens, you are more likely to believe you've had the experience yourself. I've had dozens of "encounters" over the years with things I can't explain and I've called them "ghosts" for lack of another way to describe them (sometimes jokingly, sometimes not). Looking back on the experiences, I can now say most of them were clearly hallucinations because I was of a mind to see something much like what I thought I saw. A few of the others can be written off as funny coincidences. I can admit that I've been known to jump at my own shadow.

My last apartment had a whole lot of weird things happen over the 6 years I lived there and I haven't been able to explain all of them - but I'm positive explanations exist. Coincidentally, the woman who lived in the apartment just before me passed away from a heart attack in her/my living room - so it was great fun to blame the oddities on her and that, my friends, is how ghosts are created in the first place.

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Ben Andrews link
1/10/2015 03:36:01 am

Thanks for your thoughts, they make sense. I don't know if you read the comments from Neilos, typical from believers, who claim to have "proof" of the 6th sense. that when you ask them to deliver it, they always cop-out.

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